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for cia director nominee john brennan. >> tough questions about drones. >> any american who joins al qaeda will know full well that they have joined an organization that is at war with the united states. >> targeted killing by the cia is not just something they're allowed to do quietly on their own. >> with the exception of mr. panetta, i feel i have been jerked around by every cia director. >> i love these groups that are criticizing us saying, well, they're fake conservatives. >> this newspaper article about karl rove's intentions is only serving to unite the tea party. >> you made some mistakes but everybody makes mistakes. >> sure. >> heard anything on nbc about the drones? >> not yet. >> tonight we have exclusive reporting on the contents of that white paper. joining us now is nbc news national investigative correspondent michael isikoff. ♪ >>> we start on a day where up to three feet of snow and winds nearing hurricane strength are expected to batter the northeast, and we'll have much more on that throughout the broadcast. but we begin in washington where we are awaiting the presid
there is no correlation there as far as any type of termination of the cia's detention interrogation program and that increase in strikes. now, i will say that if you look out over the last four years what happened in a number of places such as yemen and other areas where there was, in fact, a growth of al qaeda, quite unfortunately, and so what we were trying to do in this administration is to take every measure possible to protect the lives of american citizens whether it be abroad or in the united states. as well as a maturation of capabilities and inside into those intelligence plots as a result of the investment that was made in the previous administration that allowed us in this administration to take appropriate actions. >> well, let's talk further about the targeted killings. when the targeted killings began several years ago, the first order of effect was the elimination of the senior operational leadership of al qaeda, of many of the leaders, many of the core leaders. obviously, that is a critical priority. we have heard both former cia director michael hayden in an interview on cn
crazily in every direction now. karl rove, the architect of the iraq war, the escapee from the cia scandal, the proud sponsor of the conservative feats in 2006 and twoit who wasted fat cat money by the tens of millions, that karl rove is thumping around the country right now like a wounded elephant threatening to crush the party's fringes. tea partiers, look out. he may not be able to beat democrats but he's got big, bad you in his sights. so the fight has begun. while steve king, matt kibby, joe walsh, rush limbaugh, all the inhas been nants of the cuckoo nest are cscrambling because karl rove is drawing lines in the sand. want republicans to win? cut out the crazies he he's? want the democrats, stop giving them easy targets, rape candidates and witches. stop making the democrats look smart and reasonable by running stupid and crazy candidates. the joy is, i have to say this, and it's really quite funny, each of the right wing factions thinks that they are the same ones, they are the ones who have to protect the party from the others. well, tonight the duel to the death drives deeper. it'
for cia director nominee john brennan, an explosive day of testimony marked with protests and contentious questioning, a story that will no doubt dominate the headlines for days to come. "hardball" picks things up right now. >>> defending the drones. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm michael smerconiummer komer chris matthews. secrets and spies. the man who is at the center of the national debate over the targeted killing of americans overseas has been in the hot seat on capitol hill. among other things john brennan coordinates the kill list and so his confirmation hearing to become head of the cia is drawing an unusual amount of interest and attention. we'll get to what he said and the reaction at the top of the show. >>> also, more and more people on the right are asking, who is karl rove and why should we listen to him anymore? rove wants electable republicans nominated. the tea partiers want their people in. real right wingers and they're trashing rove and establishment republicans in the process. >>> plus, you've probably heard that chuck hagel once said the following,
's announcement for new choice of cia director, john brennan. john brennan was once the deputy cia director. he is now president obama's counterterrorism director at the white house. but if he is to run the cia for president obama, john brennan is first going to have to face questions on thursday about some of what michael isikoff turned up here on this program last night. a justice department white paper elaborating the administration's reasoning for why it thinks it is legal to kill american citizens on the president's say so. or actually, on the say so of an informed high level official of the u.s. government. so maybe that's the president, but maybe that's somebody else. michael isikoff's scoop ended up at "the new york times" today and the "washington post" and the hill and slate and salon and ap to name a few. it was everywhere. and then at a press conference today, the attorney general was asked about it. >> last night nbc reported a white paper that was prepared by the justice department undated, unsigned about the legal -- the legal pinnacles for targeting americans overseas. could you
the kill list, and so his confirmation hearing to become head of the cia is drawing an unusual amount of interest and attention. we'll get to what he said and the reaction at the top of the show. >>> also, more and more people on the right are asking, who is karl rove and why should we listen to him anymore? rove wants electable republicans nominated. the tea partiers want their people in, real right wingers, and they're trashing rove and establishment republicans in the process. >>> plus, you've probably heard that chuck hagel once said the following, quote, the jewish lobby intimidates a lot of people up here. i'm not an israeli senator. i'm a united states senator. but what you probably haven't heard is the rest of that interview and why some people who know what hagel really said aren't angry with him at all. >>> and why is chris christie talking so much about his weight? maybe because he wants to talk about it on his terms, and why might that be? because perhaps he's running for president. >>> finally, the recently fired dick morris admits he was wrong at the top of his lungs las
with some disturbing revelations about the outsourcing of torture over the last decade. and the cia's past use of secret detentions. sfwlimplgts plus, the disturbing vote out of north korea that appears to show new york city in flames after a dream sequence of a nuclear attack. this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. ldn't itl if we took the nissan altima and reimagined nearly everything in it? gave it greater horsepower and class-leading 38 mpg highway... advanced headlights... and zero gravity seats? yeah, that would be cool. introducing the completely reimagined nissan altima. it's our most innovative altima ever. nissan. innovati that excites. now get a $199-per-month lease on the 2013 nissan altima. ♪ . >>> we say that we only take these kinds of actions when there's an imminent threat when capture is not feasible and when we are confident that we are doing so in a way that's consistent with federal and international law. >> the u.s. government can order the killing of american citizens if they are believed to be "senior operational leaders of al qaeda" or its subsidiary gr
. >> bill: impact segment tonight. will counter terrorism advisor john brennan become the head of the cia. he testifies tomorrow on capitol hill. some liberals don't like him because he is the director of the drone program that kills terrorists from the sky. president obama very bullish on the drones. >> the strikes are legal. they are ethical and they are wise. the u.s.a. government takes great care in deciding to pursue an al qaeda terrorist to ensure precision and avoid loss of innocent life. >> bill: here now to discuss his moral dilemma over the drone issue, the co-host of the five bob beckel. all right. so, first of all, would you make brennan the head of the cia? >> not with that policy, no. until that policy was changed, i would hold him up. >> bill: he is the architect of the policy. >> that's a good reason. >> bill: you won't vote for him. >> i wouldn't vote for him unless that policy changed. talking about going after american citizens who yes are associated with terrorist groups i understand that no evidence they are doing anything about an imminent threat to the united states
of waterboard and detention made their voices heard at yesterday's confirmation hearing for john brennan as cia director. >> they won't even tell congress what country we are killing children in. >> please -- >> senator feinstein. >> if you could please expedite the removal. >> more important than the children of pakistan and yemen? are they more important? do your job! >> the hearing serve as a public discussion of the most controversial counterterrorism policies that began under president george w. bush and, in part, have continued and expanded under president obama. brennan's defense of the secrecy surrounding the administration's most questionable program, targeted assassinations using drone aircraft, was as opaque as the program itself. >> what we need to do is optimize transparency on these issues, but at the same time optimize secrecy and the protection of our national security. i don't think that it's one or the other. it's trying to optimize both of them. >> some senators, including ron widen and angus king, pushed brennan to explain the legal at and justification for assassinating ame
of the drone program prepares for his confirmation hearing to the top spot at the c.i.a. catherine herridge tells us some lawmakers are demanding answers. >> the white house press secretary was peppered with questions about the president's authority to target u.s. citizens. >> these strikes are legal, ethical and wise. >> this is giving legal justification for killing american citizens without any trial. >> i would point you to the ample judicial precedent. >> this letter signed by eight democrats and three republicans urges mr. obama to produce the memos th authorizes use the drones to congress and republicans can decide whether it's subject to appropriate limitations and safeguards. susan colins says fundamental principals are at stake. >> the obama administration released all these opinions from the office of legal council about the bush administration's treatment of detainees. so why the different stad. >> first reported by nbc news, a leaked draft memo argues americans such as anwar al awlaki, the first american targeted for death, you are lawful because of their leadership within al-q
is making the call? the attorney general, the head of the cia? who makes the call when we send in a drone. is it the army, the cia, is it the attorney general? >> a lot of recent reporting has shown it's actually barack obama himself -- >> through the nsc. >> he is the informed high-level official -- >> does he have to give an official finding? does he have to have a finding? does he have to -- >> there's a finding that supports the policy, but i don't know that he needs -- >> does he have fingerprints when he makes one of these decisions like -- >> not public ones. in fact, they won't discuss the public -- deliberations at all. listen, until last year they wouldn't acknowledge the drone policy existed. >> can you tell from your reporting if there's any conflict of conscience within the administration or they agree we need to do this in the war we're in now? >> look at panetta's comments to chuck todd the other day on "meet the press" in which he said making these decisions about who should die and who should not, who should get targeted, were really tough ones and he agonized about that.
to take over the cia, the white house has to answer some tough questions about its overseas drone program. the catalyst is a leaked white house memo obtained by nbc's michael isikoff that justifies in certain cases attacks on american citizens abroad. the white house has forced strong criticisms from advocates over the drone policy. ron wyden tweeted today every american has the right to know when the government believes it is allowed to kill them. what's surprising people is how much most americans seem to casually accept this as the cost of doing business in a dangerous world. eugene robbins is a columnist and david corn is from mother jones. both are msnbc political analysts. let's take a look here at ed carney, the president's spokesman, talk about this. it was a briefing today and carney defended the president's position on drones but also faced some tough questions. let's listen. >> i won't talk about specific instances, but the fact is that the methods that we use are designed specifically to avoid civilian casualties. i think it's fair to say that far fewer civilians lose their li
of intelligence work, 25-year veteran at the c.i.a. to lead that agency. and as the president's top counterterrorism advisor these past four years, he has done extraordinary work in the effort to combat al qaeda. >>steve: it is mr. brennan's appearance before this committee today for his confirmation that lawmakers feel if we're ever going to get answers regarding the program, it's now. that's why it is extraordinary and probably a little coincidental that they would go ahead and relent and release it to the lawmakers today. >>brian: here's what's good about it. we're going to get real questions from both sides rather than what a great guy you are, what a horrible person you are, and speech making. wur going to get both sides probing john brennan in a respectful way, i believe, to legitimize some of the tactics when he was working counterterror for the center. charles krauthammer looks at constitutional hurdles and why in some ways this could be challenging. >> they want to pretend you can only hit an american al qaeda operative who is an imminent threat and define him in a threat o
and women in the c.i.a. the patriots that undertook this program and kept us safe. what i would like to see happen in terms of security of the nation going forward, i would like to see him explain how it is we are going to continue to prevail against insurgent al-qaeda when we are in longer capturing terrorists. at the end of the day this is war we win with intelligence and we don't have the tools anymore to get the intelligence we need. >> sean: we're going to pay a huge price down the road. we're going to be saying, why did we stop doing those things. jose rodriguez that witnessed enhanced interrogation, he was on this program, no eit, no bin laden. watch the tape. >> so you don't think we would have gotten bin laden without techniques leading to the intelligence? >> the reason why because there a clear trail. there was someone we captured, a facilitator we captured in 2004 that told us about bin laden's currier and gave us a tsunami anymore and eventually we got the -- pseudonym. >> but the things he opposed wouldn't have allowed him to make that decision is that a fair statement? >> tha
't the congress informed. they were interviewed two days by the f.b.i. you know the c.i.a. never called up the f.b.i. and say, what did they say about the attack. if you talk to the survivors, you would have known it was a coordinated terrorist attack and not a mob. >> greta: were you going to vote for senator hagel? >> i thought his confirmation hearing was disturbing. >> greta: does that mean you may still vote for him? >> we don't have enough information. we haven't gotten the information we requested. i don't think we should vote on chuck hagel until we get all the things we requested about the speeches he's made, but as to whether or not i will vote for him, i hope the administration will reconsider his nomination. he is a good man, but these are dangerous times. what kind of signal are you sending to the iranians when your secretary of defense seems to be throughless about what our policy is? >> greta: are you going to hold it up in any way? >> i'm trying to make sure, he made 15 speeches for money and i know what he said. i can tell you this: i've never seen the world more dangerous. ther
during the testimony, it was interesting because panetta said the pentagon, the c.i.a., and the department of state were all on board with sending the rebels in syria where there has been mass genocide because ofor us to send them arms. you know who said no? the white house. well, we don't know if it's going to work. we don't know which of the rebels to arm. ultimately we don't know if it will result in the ouster of assad. >> brian: the "washington post" lead editorial today says hillary clinton and david petraeus, running the c.i.a. identified the group that they believe would have been the preferrable group to take over through all the rebels, they weeded through and had a plan. and the president nixed it. the word is too political. they wanted to make it seem we're not on a war footing with the election a month away. >> gretchen: maybe the election playing a huge role. let's look at the fox news polls right now. recently conducted, how many people feel our country compared to five years ago? nearly half of those polled say america is weaker and less powerful today.
, cia operatives, and where policy in the case of afghanistan has to make some changes, but it's generally on a predetermined course but it's going to have to vary quite a bit because we're drawing down troops now. in syria i think what we have is a policy for all the good intentions hasn't really worked. and if i were secretary kerry, i would probably commission my best people to do a two to four-week study on fundamentally new options in syria. where i think the united states has to recognize that what it's been doing so far hasn't been adequate and yet the country is in no mood for another 100,000 strong invasion and we can't do that. but we've got to find some nice mix of tools that's stronger than what we're doing now because the current policy is just not working. >> heather, it strikes me, we have sort of an interesting moment in history here. that we have the first time that a man is actually stepping in to feel the heels of powerful and effective women. madeleine albright, cleeondolee rice, and hillary clinton. i remember when secretary albright was first named by pres
was leaving libya for turkey. and so the ambassador had to be killed to cover that up? maybe? because cia helicopters, boats, ghosts, i don't know. rand paul talked than theory that he has cooked up. he talked about that theory after that hearing to who else, but the website world net daily. rand did an interview with world net daily and told them he doesn't have any proof about this theory that guns are being smuggled out of libya into turkey, and that somehow explains what was going on there. but he wanted to enter that conspiracy theory into the congressional record anyway. world net daily is where united states senator rand paul went to go talk about his conspiracy secret boat theory about benghazi after the hearing. just for the record, this is the world net daily front page. see what the halo is? this is their current issue. inside you can read an article titled "obama's muslim childhood" by daniel pipes in which the renowned islam expert presents overwhelming evidence that the president of the united states who claimed before the election he was never a muslim was in fact born and
, with more than 400 cia strikes against targets in pakistan and yemen. that's eight times as many as under president george w. bush. and now nbc news's michael isikoff has obtained a 16-page justice department memo that makes the legal argument to justify this administration's use of drones to kill terror suspects, including american citizens. the government can order the killing of its own citizens without due process if those citizens are believed to be senior operational leaders of al qaeda or an associated force, even if there is no intel indicating they are involved in an active plot to attack the united states. today attorney general eric holder addressed the issue. >> we only take these kinds of actions when there is an eminent threat, when capture is not feasible, and when we are confident we are doing so in a way that is consistent with federal and international law. >> yet, according to the memo, the government gets to define the word "eminent" in a very broadway. the condition that an operational leader present an imminent threat of violent attack against the united states does
and the department of state, they were sharing reports mostly provided by the c.i.a. for months that were outlining the growing threat in benghazi and, indeed, it was focused on western influence particularly the u.s. those requests early on for additional security prior to the attack went unanswered. you are satisfied with that response from panetta? >> yeah, i think what is being lost is the fact there has been an accountability review of all of this. they have laid out a number of recommendations. thef been agreed to by hillary clinton, by the president, by a number of people. we're not really at this point getting a lot new information. what is being lost in the context lindsay graham's request to have another hearing with will have papa. it's supposed -- leon panetta. there is a lot of questions we can ask hagel. we can ask him about the upcoming military budget cuts or the drawdown in afghanistan. it seems as though that republicans are focused on embarrassing the president and making an example out of the benghazi attack. >> heather: do you agree with that. do you think it will go differentl
's female spies look more like this? the feds apparently think so. women at the c.i.a. recently went to a presentation encouraging them to be more attractive at work. suggestions included wearing make-up and a skirt. really? instead of slacks. and painting their nails. the head of the d.i.a. later apologized, calling the session dumb. brian, i know that one of your favorite spies ever was anna chapman from russia. and she tended to dress up. >> steve: she used nail polish. >> gretchen: and used probably nail polish. can you hear me? >> brian: yeah, i can. i just never fell for her trap. i do believe there is a bigger story there. you know that. because she's hot and has a nice body, people fell for it. i believe the russians are still here. something serious happened overt weekend, i know it affected you guys. chris kyle, american hero, navy seal who set the record for sniper kills because every time he killed them, another one of our guys survived, he came out. he's adapted to life afterwards, best selling author. he lost his life trying to help a fellow marine adjust to life after
are somehow figuring out that i'm canceling the subscription? >> yes. if they could tap into the cia, they could tap into subscriptions. everything is through the computer now and through your hand held telephone. >> we ought not tell penal we are going on vacation and don't share it over the internet, right? >> there is no reason to do that because people are much withing you. i mean, everybody is watching. why tell people where you are going. you know where you are going. when you get there that's one thing. to advertise you are going for one week, with it weeks, no reason to do that. >> some of these travel web sites, put them online. smart phone. keeps your whole itinerary there online you say avoid doing that why? >> because they are tracking you with the computers now. track all your travelocity stuff. little things which tracks you. like people when they have a lay their car they don't think about the stuff they leave in their glove compartment. author of jeepous on hold, walter thank you for joining us. great tips. >> thanks for having me. >> 7:27 now. coming up on "fox & fri
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